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Money is Not Needed in Energy Abundance

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while i sincerely wish i could agree, i am attempting to transition from the current paradigm to a GRBE paradigm. and simply put, abundant energy does not exist within the current system, and saying anything to the contrary is literally wishful thinking.


This is where You're wrong.  First, My father was a CalTech graduate and was one of the top electrical engineers at one of the foremost aerospace companies in the 1950's.  He would come home and excitedly describe His work, and the successful experiments in electrogravitics, including gravity control ("antigravity") and overunity ("free energy").  He would paint for Me a picture of what My world would be like growing up because of His work:  cars would fly, cities would float, and We would have all the energy We could use.


One day He came home and told Me We could not talk about it anymore because, "They want it secret for now."


Second, the idea there is no free energy is promulgated by the elites who would lose control of Us if We had free energy.


Here's some links You may want to explore:


http://www.padrak.com/ine/INE24.html


http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA227121
http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0211/0211001.p...
http://www.ssrsi.org/Onsite/PDFbin/Biefeld-Brown%2...
http://www.rqm.ch/Central%20Oscillator%20and%20Spa...
http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/files/Electrogravit...
http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/Loder.PD...
http://users.teilar.gr/~a.a.nass/files/C6.pdf
http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/The%20Case%20f...
http://www.ostfalia.de/export/sites/default/de/pws...


when we change from one system to another, if we negate the real issues inherent in the current system, we are doomed to repeat the same mistake in whatever system we change to. when i talk about money, i mean the same thing you do, except that i'm looking at the actual nature of 'money' and not the stated purpose of money.


The "nature" of money is to track things?  Perhaps in very recent history, this is so, but the foundation (the basic nature) of money has everything to do with accounting for meaningful energy expended.  Here's a quote from eminent economist, Jeremy Rifkin, from His seminal book, Entropy:  "Money, after all, is nothing more than stored energy credits."  And if You peer into the CFR's publications, You will find They, too, state that money and energy are the same in base meaning.


also, to say we have infinite energy, is negating the fact that we live on a finite planet, with finite resources. it is this false understanding that has led to our current predicament. we currently work under the impression that we can continue to consume with no regard to the future, because our planet is so abundant. note please that abundant and infinite are vastly different concepts.


Are You acquainted with the fact that 70-80% of the universe is comprized of what scientists call "dark" energy (also called zero point, orgone, radiant (Tesla), "vacuum," plenum energy - and other names as well)?  Effectively, this is an infinite source of energy and it exists EVERYWHERE.  Inside You.  Inside Me. and all points outside the both of Us.


On top of that, the scarcity on this planet is a manufactured illusion.  Statistically speaking, Humans don't exist on this planet:


  1. If all Humans were given 1/4 acre of land in Australia (4% of land mass EXcluding Antarctica), a relatively low population density, there would still be a chunk of Australia left over - and the whole rest of the planet.
  2. If You placed the volume of all humans into the Grand Canyon, You wouldn't even fill one side canyon.
  3. If all of Us were placed into the state of Texas, there's be a fair chunk of Texas left over.


Because We are crowded into small spots on this planet, to connect to grids, it SEEMS like We are overpopulated.


Food:


  1. Because We distribute by profit and not need, supermarkets throw out hundreds of thousands of TONS of food a MONTH.
  2. Because We "fertilize" with nutrient-limited petro-"fertilizers" Our food supply does not supply proper nutrition.
  3. Organic farming offers equal or better yield to perto-"fertilized" fields - and offer full nutrition
  4. We pay corporate "farmers" to NOT grow food - to artificially hike prices in supply and demand


If We distributed by need, farmed organically, and used all farmland, We could feed 10 times the number of Humans presently on this planet.  Add new methods, such as vertical farming, and that could go as high as 100 times.


And as long as there is profit motive, the BEST solutions to problems will fall to the wayside in favor of the cheapest or most profitable (like paying fines instead of cleaning up polution...).


i don't mean to argue, but the fact remains that we cannot simply leap into a new pardigm, there must be a transition, anything else results in the misuse of concepts and resources.


Not arguing at all. <smile>  You're debating, and I can appreciate that.


Surely We can leap into a new paradigm - in Our goals and understanding.  And all that We have to do to accomplish the abundance paradigm is:


  1. Spread awareness of it to the tipping point which will...
  2. Allow Us to demand the hidden tech which will...
  3. Begin to remove the cost of energy in industry, agriculture, transportation, and homes, which will...
  4. Drop prices to where robots for any necessary work no One WANTS to do will be affordable which will...
  5. Release many from jobs They do not like - and We can support Them eaily though social services - which will...
  6. See prices drop and drop and drop, until the effort to collect the penny for the week's groceries, the room full of furniture, the house, the <fill in the blank>, is more effort than the penny is worth.


And at that point, money will not be needed.

"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"
"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."
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